Not very libertarian. But a realistic depiction (at the level of a children’s song) of human nature. There are then two responses: the realist sees that most people like and feel a need to have leaders, and tries to prevent the worst abuses made possible by that reality. The utopian decides that human nature can be changed and the “new libertarian man” will no longer get in that line and follow.
…the realist sees that most people like and feel a need to have leaders, and tries to prevent the worst abuses made possible by that reality…
A true realist would see this for the utopian self-worship that it is, and just abuse that reality in accordance with their own circumstances and human nature.
“The utopian decides that human nature can be changed and the “new libertarian man” will no longer get in that line and follow.”
Gene – I think the proper distinction is that these libertarian “utopians” believe that people shouldn’t be beaten into getting in such lines…..not that such lines shouldn’t exist at all. But you were once a libertarian-oriented guy so you already knew this…..
Unless the leader happens to be Rand or Mises – then many libertarians are quite willing to leave their brains behind and follow. Or if the leader happens to be one’s employer or shareholder. Rothbard was certainly in favor of social inequalities, though he never seemed to really care about the problem of power as long as the power wasn’t called “government.”
Liberalism (libertarianism as Americans like to call it) has never been against choosing a leader for yourself. It has been against choosing a leader for someone else.
But Roderick, surely this doesn’t violate the Non-aggression Principle(TM) – the Lost Boys don’t seem to be coerced in any way, therefore for libertarians, blindly following leaders who seem to have no regard for the safety of their followers (and are clueless about the path they’re on) is perfectly acceptable! I’m afraid your libertine leftist intuitions are gravely mistaken and have led you astray from the tr00 libertarian position!
Unfortunately, this song is a smudge on my favorite animated Disney movie EVER. 🙁
Hey Wally! Long time no see. (Or read, I guess.)
Unless it’s intended as satire.
A challenger appears.
Fucking vomit! The challenger wins. 🙁
Not very libertarian. But a realistic depiction (at the level of a children’s song) of human nature. There are then two responses: the realist sees that most people like and feel a need to have leaders, and tries to prevent the worst abuses made possible by that reality. The utopian decides that human nature can be changed and the “new libertarian man” will no longer get in that line and follow.
A true realist would see this for the utopian self-worship that it is, and just abuse that reality in accordance with their own circumstances and human nature.
“The utopian decides that human nature can be changed and the “new libertarian man” will no longer get in that line and follow.”
Gene – I think the proper distinction is that these libertarian “utopians” believe that people shouldn’t be beaten into getting in such lines…..not that such lines shouldn’t exist at all. But you were once a libertarian-oriented guy so you already knew this…..
Then there’s this song (which I rather like).
Unless the leader happens to be Rand or Mises – then many libertarians are quite willing to leave their brains behind and follow. Or if the leader happens to be one’s employer or shareholder. Rothbard was certainly in favor of social inequalities, though he never seemed to really care about the problem of power as long as the power wasn’t called “government.”
Liberalism (libertarianism as Americans like to call it) has never been against choosing a leader for yourself. It has been against choosing a leader for someone else.
Well, depends whether it’s taken thinly or thickly.
But Roderick, surely this doesn’t violate the Non-aggression Principle(TM) – the Lost Boys don’t seem to be coerced in any way, therefore for libertarians, blindly following leaders who seem to have no regard for the safety of their followers (and are clueless about the path they’re on) is perfectly acceptable! I’m afraid your libertine leftist intuitions are gravely mistaken and have led you astray from the tr00 libertarian position!