Stephan objects to Kevins defense of the term socialism. Words have meanings, Stephan insists, and apparently the word socialism just means centralized control of the means of production while capitalism likewise apparently just means a system in which the means of production are privately owned.
But theres no simple fact of the matter as to what either of these much-contested terms means. As Ive pointed out previously, many people especially socialists, but often capitalists too hear private ownership of the means of production as implying, by definition, ownership of the means of production by someone other than the workers, and take this to be definitive of capitalism; thats not part of what Stephan means by the term, but its a widespread and longstanding use as is the use of the word socialism (by the 19th-century individualist anarchists, for example) to mean worker control of industry, not necessarily in a centralised or collective or communal manner. The ownership-by-capitalists/ownership-by-workers way of understanding the capitalism/socialism distinction is at least as old and well pedigreed as the private/public way of understanding it.
To quote from one of my favourite authors (i.e. myself):
Weve seen a number of anarchist thinkers Hodgskin, Proudhon, Andrews, Spooner, Spencer whose views are not easily classified as socialist or capitalist, since, in one way or another, they seek the putatively socialist goal of worker control of industry, via the putatively capitalist means of private ownership and market exchange. Part of the problem is that there are (at least) two distinct ways of understanding the contrast between capitalism and socialism. In the first meaning, socialism-1 favours control of the means of production by society (whether organised via the state or not), whereas capitalism-1 favours control of the means of production by private (albeit perhaps contractually associated) individuals. In the second meaning, socialism-2 favours control of the means of production by the workers themselves, while capitalism-2 favours control of the means of production by someone other than the workers i.e., by capitalist owners.
These two meanings are often run together, with socialism entailing control by the workers in their social capacity (perhaps anarchically, perhaps via the state) and capitalism entailing control by capitalists in their private capacity. But that leaves open two harder-to-classify options control by capitalists via the state, and control by workers via the market and laissez-faire; the aforementioned anarchist thinkers to whose ranks Tucker also belongs favour the latter option. (Thus when Tucker calls himself a socialist, he means socialism-2.) The following chart may be helpful:
Thus Hodgskin, Tucker, et al. would fall in the upper left quadrant, and Marx and Kropotkin in the upper right. The chart doesnt accommodate everyone (Godwin and Bakunin seem to fall somewhere between the top two quadrants, for example), but its a start.
A further complication is that its a matter of dispute among the various parties whether existing capitalist society is closer to the bottom left or bottom right quadrant (and why). Also, both state-socialists and right-wing libertarians tend to regard capitalism-2 (capitalist control) as a natural result of capitalism-1 (private control) though they disagree as to whether to cheer or boo about that result while left-wing libertarians tend to regard capitalism-2 (capitalist control) as the pernicious result of socialism-1 (state intervention), and promote capitalism-1 (a genuine free market) in the expectation that it will eventuate in socialism-2 (worker control).
Thanks to the ambiguity of the terms socialism and capitalism I tend to avoid using them without some kind of qualifier e.g. state socialism, free-market socialism, corporatist capitalism, worker-controlled capitalism, or the like to prevent my being taken to mean something I dont. (The common use of the term capitalism to apply to the existing social system is yet another reason to avoid using it without an explanatory qualifier as a term for what one is defending, lest one be taken for a defender of the status quo.)
Incidentally, Stephan uses Rands words to explain why he embraces the term capitalism: For the reason that makes you afraid of it. But this is a straight line if I ever heard one; its practically begging Kevin to make precisely the same response about socialism. The truth is, though, that there are good and bad reasons to be afraid of the term capitalism, just as there are good and bad reasons to be afraid of the term socialism. (And ditto, of course, for selfishness, the term Rand was defending in the passage Stephan quotes.) That is precisely why one needs to disambiguate, and to avoid assuming that everyone means and has always meant the same thing by terms like capitalism and socialism, or phrases like private ownership of the means of production, that one does oneself.