I’ve been yakkin’ it up in some powerful long talkbacks on decentralism, immigration, thick libertarianism, and suchlike over on Charles’s blog; see here, here, and here.
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Localism and Globalism in the Libertarian Left « The Examined Life -
May 4, 2009
[…] (links here, here, and here) about localism and globalism within the libertarian left (hat tip to Roderick Long). To throw in my belated $0.02, I find myself in agreement with Rad Geek, in that the solution to […]
“the idea that libertarianism is best seen as one strand within a bundle of interrelated and reinforcing political, cultural, or philosophical commitments”
Shouldn’t that read “TEH strand.” Isn’t liberty the point of all commitments?
Add an “is a” to make it even more logical.
Replacing the within part. Sorry. Not sure why I need to point this out but wateva
That still doesn’t make sense. Lemme see.
Ducks in a row.
Bundle of values.
Factors of production.
Somewhere this makes sense to support the next Democrat politician because he’ll (HELL) will be less bad.
Here we go. I’ve got a phonecam. Taking notes. And vids.
Uh … what?
See, I have you guessing.
“I think it’s pretty easy to slip from Kevin’s writing about the first and second and third sort of thing into thinking that he’s pushing something like the fifth, even though, as far as I can tell, it plays a pretty small role in how the whole picture actually fits together.”
Why don’t people just learn engineering? Wouldn’t it be obvious to then avoid 30-YR investments? Yeah well, we’ve seen this. Good luck son. There ya go.
Some people might hold that view, but I don’t. (I don’t think Roderick does either, but he can speak for himself.)
The stuff on the varieties of thickness explains why I think that libertarians have at least some specifically libertarian reasons for committing to other projects such as radical feminism, anti-authoritarianism, anti-racism, wildcat unionism, internationalism, gay liberation, etc. So the commitments don’t just run alongside each other in parallel; part of your reason to be both a libertarian and a feminist is that the insights of (what I take to be) the most plausible versions of feminism play a substantial role in coming to what I take to be the best understanding of libertarian theory and practice. (And vice versa; there are specifically feminist reasons for feminists also to be libertarians, and specifically anarchists. I have a thick conception of feminism as well as a thick conception of libertarianism.)
However, to say that libertarians have some libertarian reasons for commitments to feminism is not to say that libertarian reasons are the only reasons for a commitment to feminism, or even the primary reasons. I think the primary reason for committing to feminism is that feminism is right, and not just on those things that can be cashed out as having some effect on questions as to the role of force in social relationships; and it’s worth pursuing on its own merits, and would be so even if it had no impact whatever on the advance of libertarian politics.
Holy shit, thank you for the reply.
Really, you don’t get it? OH Golly. Oh.
Susan Boyle. How sweet, aint it?
“specifically libertarian” as in specifically claimed? the rockwell cavemen will be here any minute now. It’s a Flintsone cartoon reference screaming to me made. html? really?
Where’s the Green Machine Bioregionalism Techno-hippy strand? I have news from the front.
But basically you just mean everybody needs to be real.
“force in social relationships”
libertarianism has a wider definition in some parts.
But wouldn’t being nice to girls be libertarian anyway?
That’s wat femenmism is right? Being nice to girls?
This is all based on future-based calculations, right? Cereal?
Yah Geek, I wanna know wats in it for me? Cereal?
If you want to comment on this site, stay on point, and sober up first. You’re clearly an extreme oxycontin addict. Get some help.
Any more of this stuff will be deleted.
Egads…
I have the feeling this might not be a productive conversation ….