7 Responses to Like a Pope on the Wire

  1. Anon73 March 24, 2012 at 3:56 pm #

    Or as it’s said these days, “citation needed”.

  2. Julia March 24, 2012 at 4:20 pm #

    I find that scholars of every organized religion tries to come up with their own definition of “freedom” which conveniently fits into their religious paradigm. I’ve debated this topic way too much with fundies of all faiths (namely, Evangelical Christians and Muslims and some Orthodox Jews) to know that they love twisting things around. “Oh, freedom is whatever my god/holy book says it is,” etc.

    • scineram March 26, 2012 at 5:04 pm #

      Of course, freedom is whatever libertarians say it is.

      • Sergio Méndez March 27, 2012 at 8:51 am #

        Well, lets say that an institution that persecuted people for not following their religion or for not accepting all their specific dogmas for centuries (and even killing them in the process), cannot say they have suppported “freedom”? Or do you think is because libertarians have some weird definition of the word that doesn´t apply to those cases?

  3. Anon73 March 26, 2012 at 6:34 pm #

    Actually I’d say we libertarians bicker more about what freedom means than the other groups just because we’re honestly trying to grapple with what it means. When Roman legal documents or papal encyclicals mention freedom it’s not usually with much thoughtfulness or precision.

  4. Anon73 March 31, 2012 at 5:36 pm #

    I got the feeling I had read that particular encyclical before, when I chanced upon this gem:

    Here We must include that harmful and never sufficiently denounced freedom to publish any writings whatever and disseminate them to the people, which some dare to demand and promote with so great a clamor. We are horrified to see what monstrous doctrines and prodigious errors are disseminated far and wide in countless books, pamphlets, and other writings which, though small in weight, are very great in malice. We are in tears at the abuse which proceeds from them over the face of the earth.

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