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Galactica hoverbikeI’ve been yakkin’ it up in some powerful long talkbacks on decentralism, immigration, thick libertarianism, and suchlike over on Charles’s blog; see here, here, and here.

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  1. Brother Mark, Amen May 2, 2009 at 12:27 pm #

    “the idea that libertarianism is best seen as one strand within a bundle of interrelated and reinforcing political, cultural, or philosophical commitments”

    Shouldn’t that read “TEH strand.” Isn’t liberty the point of all commitments?

  2. Brother Mark, Amen May 2, 2009 at 12:42 pm #

    Add an “is a” to make it even more logical.

  3. Brother Mark, Amen May 2, 2009 at 12:44 pm #

    Replacing the within part. Sorry. Not sure why I need to point this out but wateva

  4. Brother Mark, Amen May 2, 2009 at 12:48 pm #

    That still doesn’t make sense. Lemme see.

    Ducks in a row.
    Bundle of values.
    Factors of production.

    Somewhere this makes sense to support the next Democrat politician because he’ll (HELL) will be less bad.

    Here we go. I’ve got a phonecam. Taking notes. And vids.

  5. Roderick May 2, 2009 at 1:35 pm #

    Uh … what?

  6. Brother Mark, Amen May 2, 2009 at 1:42 pm #

    See, I have you guessing.

    “I think it’s pretty easy to slip from Kevin’s writing about the first and second and third sort of thing into thinking that he’s pushing something like the fifth, even though, as far as I can tell, it plays a pretty small role in how the whole picture actually fits together.”

    Why don’t people just learn engineering? Wouldn’t it be obvious to then avoid 30-YR investments? Yeah well, we’ve seen this. Good luck son. There ya go.

  7. Rad Geek May 2, 2009 at 1:46 pm #

    Shouldn’t that read “TEH strand.” Isn’t liberty the point of all commitments?

    Some people might hold that view, but I don’t. (I don’t think Roderick does either, but he can speak for himself.)

    The stuff on the varieties of thickness explains why I think that libertarians have at least some specifically libertarian reasons for committing to other projects such as radical feminism, anti-authoritarianism, anti-racism, wildcat unionism, internationalism, gay liberation, etc. So the commitments don’t just run alongside each other in parallel; part of your reason to be both a libertarian and a feminist is that the insights of (what I take to be) the most plausible versions of feminism play a substantial role in coming to what I take to be the best understanding of libertarian theory and practice. (And vice versa; there are specifically feminist reasons for feminists also to be libertarians, and specifically anarchists. I have a thick conception of feminism as well as a thick conception of libertarianism.)

    However, to say that libertarians have some libertarian reasons for commitments to feminism is not to say that libertarian reasons are the only reasons for a commitment to feminism, or even the primary reasons. I think the primary reason for committing to feminism is that feminism is right, and not just on those things that can be cashed out as having some effect on questions as to the role of force in social relationships; and it’s worth pursuing on its own merits, and would be so even if it had no impact whatever on the advance of libertarian politics.

    • Brother Mark, Amen May 2, 2009 at 1:50 pm #

      Holy shit, thank you for the reply.

  8. Brother Mark, Amen May 2, 2009 at 1:49 pm #

    Really, you don’t get it? OH Golly. Oh.

  9. Brother Mark, Amen May 2, 2009 at 1:59 pm #

    Susan Boyle. How sweet, aint it?

  10. Brother Mark, Amen May 2, 2009 at 2:19 pm #

    “specifically libertarian” as in specifically claimed? the rockwell cavemen will be here any minute now. It’s a Flintsone cartoon reference screaming to me made. html? really?

  11. Brother Mark, Amen May 2, 2009 at 2:34 pm #

    Where’s the Green Machine Bioregionalism Techno-hippy strand? I have news from the front.

  12. Brother Mark, Amen May 2, 2009 at 2:37 pm #

    But basically you just mean everybody needs to be real.

  13. Brother Mark, Amen May 2, 2009 at 2:52 pm #

    “force in social relationships”

    libertarianism has a wider definition in some parts.

  14. Brother Mark, Amen May 2, 2009 at 2:54 pm #

    But wouldn’t being nice to girls be libertarian anyway?

  15. Brother Mark, Amen May 2, 2009 at 3:08 pm #

    That’s wat femenmism is right? Being nice to girls?

  16. Brother Mark, Amen May 2, 2009 at 3:17 pm #

    This is all based on future-based calculations, right? Cereal?

  17. Brother Mark, Amen May 2, 2009 at 3:31 pm #

    Yah Geek, I wanna know wats in it for me? Cereal?

    • Brandon May 3, 2009 at 12:25 pm #

      If you want to comment on this site, stay on point, and sober up first. You’re clearly an extreme oxycontin addict. Get some help.
      Any more of this stuff will be deleted.

  18. Black Bloke May 2, 2009 at 10:11 pm #

    Egads…

  19. Roderick May 3, 2009 at 12:51 am #

    I have the feeling this might not be a productive conversation ….

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