I’ll Take Manhattan

Dr. Manhattan litteringI’m watching Maddow interviewing Pelosi on security briefings that Pelosi received but was not allowed to reveal.

Pelosi says that thanks to security requirements, she could not speak out against policies she disapproved of. Duh, of course she could. Has she never heard of civil disobedience?

Maddow compares Pelosi to Spider-man and Dr. Manhattan, both lonely because they cannot reveal their secret identities to anyone. Okay, Maddow wins a point for the Watchmen reference (though she would have earned more points if she’d made it a year ago) – but loses two points because, um, Dr. Manhattan’s identity is never secret.

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13 Responses to I’ll Take Manhattan

  1. Brandon February 25, 2009 at 10:02 pm #

    The two characters she mentioned weren’t lonely for any reason. Osterman was more ochlophobic than anything.
    Peter Parker’s girlfriends, MJ and Black Cat, both knew he was Spider-Man. The only one that didn’t was Gwen Stacy.
    I suppose you could say Bruce Wayne is a lonely character, but that’s the least of his problems, and it isn’t because of the secret identity issue.
    The more freakish mutants, like Kurt Wagner, Rogue, Hank McCoy — these characters are lonely, but that’s because of their freakish mutations, not because of secret identities.

    • Roderick February 25, 2009 at 11:27 pm #

      Though currently (in the wake of the evil-bad “One More Day”/”Brand New Day” storyline) nobody, including MJ, knows Spidey’s identity any more; Mephisto wiped the memories of the entire planet. (Planet or universe? Do cosmic folks like the Watcher still know?)

    • Richard Garner February 26, 2009 at 7:33 am #

      I don’t think Dr Manhattan is lonely. I think he is detached, in a way God and Superman possibly should be. Dr Manhattan is more or less a God, and thus so detached from the rest of humanity, I think he finds himself little moved by what happens to them.

  2. Dr. Manhattan February 25, 2009 at 10:33 pm #

    Why should I save a grill I no longer have any steaks in?

    • Roderick February 25, 2009 at 11:29 pm #


      Incidentally, what do you get if you cross Rorschach with H. P. Lovecraft?

      • Black Bloke February 26, 2009 at 12:06 am #

        I’ll bite. What do you get?

        • Roderick February 26, 2009 at 2:23 am #

          The Love Shack!

        • dennis February 27, 2009 at 12:58 am #

          Well Cthulu is at least as big as a whale, as for whether or not he is about to set sail, I know not.

        • Roderick February 27, 2009 at 1:16 am #

          I’d like to see a t-shirt reading “What part of ‘Iä Iä Cthulhu Fhtagn’ don’t you understand?”

  3. Black Bloke February 26, 2009 at 12:07 am #

    Dr. Manhattan’s identity is secret from the public until his father (his last living relative) dies. He later comes out as John Osterman, but he’s transcended that whole identity.

    • Roderick February 26, 2009 at 2:24 am #

      OK, I’d forgotten that.

  4. sarah March 8, 2009 at 8:34 pm #

    May I just say I love the title?
    It’s been a long time since I’ve met anyone who knows his Dinah Washington.

    • Roderick March 8, 2009 at 10:25 pm #

      I could have called it “First We Take Manhattan.”

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