Good sense from Jesse Walker on Somali piracy. (Conical hat tip to Sheldon Richman.) Also, dont forget Ben Powells piece on Somalia.
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Peace Through Statism, Part 2
See this follow-up from Charles to my earlier post on Ken MacLeods post on the correlation between peace and statism. Charles makes, inter alia, the point that states arent all that peaceful once one includes the states aggressive actions toward its own citizens.
That also reminds me of the point I made somewhere that given an unbiased media, crime statistics ought to take government actions into account.
Delightfully Ambiguous Quotation
Justice is the end of government. James Madison
Peace Through Statism?
Ken MacLeod has expressed sympathy for anarchism in his novels; but on his blog today he writes this:
We already know how to have peace over large areas of the Earth, and that is by having large states covering those areas. … The combat death rate for men of military age in typical stateless societies far exceeds that in inter-state wars, including world wars.
So I posted the following comment there:
Congratulations on winning the BSFA!
On states and violence, though, Ive got to disagree I think its confusing cause and effect.
States are a luxury good (well, a luxury bad from my point of view but a luxury commodity in any case); they fund themselves out of the social surplus. So a society needs to achieve a certain level of prosperity before it can have much in the way of a state; and it cant achieve that level of prosperity if its racked by constant tribal warfare. So its no surprise that the societies that are racked by tribal warfare tend to be the stateless ones but its the violence that explains the statelessness, not vice versa. As Thomas Paine noted, states piggyback on autonomously arising social order and then claim to have created it.
I think this is because states are essentially parasitic and don’t contribute to social order at all rather the contrary, when they arise they hinder the further advance of cooperation and economic development more than they help it. (Certainly when states are imposed, or attempted to be imposed, on violent tribal societies it tends to exacerbate the violence, since theres now a big gun in the room the state apparatus that each tribe needs to seize lest some other tribe seize it first.) But even if one thinks states are a good thing, theyre still an expensive thing, and so require a pre-existing attainment of a fair degree of peaceful commerce and productivity before they can get going.
Moreover, when large states consolidate their power and displace a previous more decentralised and more peaceful state situation, the result is often genocide (as the history of the 20th century demonstrates). Thats another reason for thinking that states are the effect rather than the cause of peace.
If some degree of peace and prosperity is needed to make states possible, then were going to get misleading data when we compare economically undeveloped, culturally tribal, relatively stateless societies with economically advanced state-ridden societies; the latter will often be more peaceful, and so well be tempted to think that the state is whats making the difference, but that inference just doesnt follow.
Thus a more interesting comparison is to compare relatively stateless and relatively state-ridden society that are otherwise at comparable levels of economic development and cultural mores.
When we do that, I think we get a very different picture. Ben Powells research, for example, shows that stateless Somalia, while undoubtedly a crappy place to live, has been both more peaceful and more prosperous than either its earlier state-ridden self [argh, I actually wrote earlier stateless self but then corrected in a subsequent post] or its economically and culturally comparable neighbours. I would also point to the research of Bruce Benson and David Friedman on how relatively stateless medieval Iceland and the relatively stateless American frontier were far less violent than comparable state-ridden societies of the time.
Float Time, Part 2
First the London Times, and now Cato! Patri Friedman is giving a talk at Cato on the Seasteading project; it will be broadcast live online. Theres also a Facebook page for the event. Congratulations, Patri!
And on the general subject of Patri and seasteading, see Joel Scholsbergs recent comment as well.
We Need Better People In Power!
How do you avoid this kind of nightmare scenario?
The Dallas Police Chiefs only answer was to hire people with common sense and good people skills.
No. The answer is to restore equality of rights between police officers and ordinary people. As long as one group of people has rights another group doesnt, theres no way to ensure reliable safeguards against the first groups abusive treatment of the second.