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		<title>Koched to the Gills</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2010/09/02/koched-to-the-gills/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 05:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Predictably, what Jesse Walker has to say about the Kochs is more interesting than what the corporate-liberal media have been saying.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Predictably, what Jesse Walker <a href="http://reason.com/blog/2010/08/31/the-cold-crisp-taste-of-koch">has to say about the Kochs</a> is more interesting than what the corporate-liberal media have been saying.</p>
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		<title>Three Shalt Thou Count</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roderick</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The debates in the comments section of my Koch post have gotten me thinking about the different ways in which vulgar libertarianism operates. I think there are three. 1) First, there&#8217;s the use of libertarian slogans as mere rhetorical covering for corporatist policies. This kind of vulgar libertarianism is standard Republican territory, and in this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The debates in the comments section of my <a href="http://aaeblog.com/2010/08/26/id-like-to-buy-the-world-a-koch">Koch post</a> have gotten me thinking about the different ways in which vulgar libertarianism operates.  I think there are three.</p>
<p><a href="http://aaeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/bigbizniz.png"><img src="http://aaeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/bigbizniz-277x300.png" alt="Big Business" title="Big Business" width="277" height="300" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-6112" /></a></p>
<p>1) First, there&#8217;s the use of libertarian slogans as mere rhetorical covering for corporatist policies.  This kind of vulgar libertarianism is standard Republican territory, and in this case &#8220;vulgar&#8221; acts as an <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20061013134815/http://www.auburn.edu/administration/univrel/news/archive/10-20-97aur.html">alienating adjective</a> (scroll halfway down); this sort of vulgar libertarianism is not libertarianism at all, any more than counterfeit money is money, a decoy duck is a duck, or a fake Rembrandt is a Rembrandt.</p>
<p>2) Next, there&#8217;s the mistake of thinking that libertarian principles justify various big-business-favourable features of the present economy that are actually the result of government privilege rather than market factors (or are so to a greater degree than is realised).  This mistake is often made by people who sincerely advocate libertarian policies that would in fact (if we left-libertarians are right) undermine big business more than such advocates realise &#8211; and who would continue to advocate them even if they realised this.  In this kind of vulgar libertarianism, &#8220;vulgar&#8221; <em>isn&#8217;t</em> alienating; the policies being advocated are genuinely libertarian, but those advocating them have blundered into making their product look less appealing (to ordinary people) than it actually is.  In such cases vulgar libertarianism is less like a decoy duck than like a sick duck.</p>
<p>3) The third kind of vulgar libertarianism is a bit more complex.  Here the problem is that even if one is advocating the right policies, mistaken views about the likely results of those policies can lead one into mistakes about what counts as a reasonable transitional step toward liberty.  For example, suppose that I overestimate the extent to which Megacorp&#8217;s success is due to market factors rather than government privilege, and so I mistakenly predict that Megacorp will do much better in a freed market than it is doing now (whereas in fact it would do much worse) .  Then I will tend to regard a policy that greatly lowers Megacorp&#8217;s tax burden without much lowering anyone else&#8217;s as a step in the right direction, and will be inclined to advocate it &#8211; whereas if I recognised the extent to which Megacorp is the beneficiary of direct and indirect subsidies at the expense of ordinary taxpayers, I might instead regard the policy as an increased subsidy.  Thus conflationist beliefs lead to corporatist practice.  (This would be an instance of <a href="http://radgeek.com/gt/2008/10/03/libertarianism_through">application thickness</a>.)  By contrast with case (2), then,  I end up endorsing objectively corporatist policies in addition to libertarian ones; though in contrast with case (1) the libertarian commitments remain sincere.  Here the duck is so sick that it&#8217;s starting to mutate; how mutated the duck has to get before it no longer counts as a duck is a tricky question.</p>
<p>The boundaries among these three varieties aren&#8217;t hard and fast; perhaps they&#8217;re best thought of as regions of a spectrum, with (1) and (2) at opposite ends and (3) in the middle.    Part of what I&#8217;ve been arguing in the Koch case is that it&#8217;s a mistake to infer from the Kochs&#8217; not being at (2) that they must be at (1); I find a position closer to (3) at least as plausible a reading, especially given Charles Koch&#8217;s declaration that his recent activism is driven by a desire to see some concrete social change in his lifetime.  (Admittedly, to the extent that the Kochs&#8217; own economic interests have helped smooth their path from (2) to (3), their (3)-ness may be classified as a bit further toward (1) than would otherwise be the case.)  I also find (3) a plausible diagnosis of some libertarian anti-immigration arguments.</p>
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		<title>I&#8217;d Like to Buy the World a Koch</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2010/08/26/id-like-to-buy-the-world-a-koch/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 02:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roderick</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The current (Aug. 30) New Yorker has an expos&#233; (sort of) on the Koch brothers. As you&#8217;d expect from such a piece, it largely criticises the Kochs for their virtues while giving them a pass for their sins; but anyway, libertarians will find it interesting even though it mostly misses the point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current (Aug. 30) <em>New Yorker</em> has an <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer?currentPage=all">expos&eacute; (sort of) on the Koch brothers</a>.  As you&#8217;d expect from such a piece, it largely criticises the Kochs for their virtues while giving them a pass for their sins; but anyway, libertarians will find it interesting even though it mostly misses the point.</p>
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		<title>Would You Like Freedom Fries With That?</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2010/08/13/would-you-like-freedom-fries-with-that/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 03:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roderick</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[See Sheldon Richman on the phony contrast between American &#8220;free enterprise&#8221; and European &#8220;socialism.&#8221;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See Sheldon Richman on the <a href="http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/tgif/whos-afraid-of-socialism">phony contrast between American &#8220;free enterprise&#8221; and European &#8220;socialism.&#8221;</a></p>
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		<title>Pages of Liberty</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2010/08/02/pages-of-liberty/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 23:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roderick</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m done with my two-week libertarathon &#8211; tiring but fun. Now just two weeks before fall classes begin! I notice that the Mises Institute has a lot of good pamphlets out, suitable for tabling &#8211; including Fr&#233;deric Bastiat&#8217;s The Law, Gustave de Molinari&#8217;s Production of Security, &#201;tienne de la Bo&#233;tie&#8217;s Discourse of Voluntary Servitude, Carl [...]]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;m done with my <a href="http://aaeblog.com/2010/07/25/one-libertarian-seminar-ends-another-begins">two-week libertarathon</a> &#8211; tiring but fun.  Now just two weeks before fall classes begin!</p>
<p>I notice that the Mises Institute has a lot of good pamphlets out, suitable for tabling &#8211; including Fr&eacute;deric Bastiat&#8217;s <strong><em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Law-Frederick-Bastiat/dp/1933550147/praxeologynet-20">The Law</a></em></strong>, Gustave de Molinari&#8217;s <strong><em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Production-Security-Gustave-Molinari/dp/B002SYUE7K/praxeologynet-20">Production of Security</a></em></strong>, &Eacute;tienne de la Bo&eacute;tie&#8217;s <strong><em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Politics-Obedience-Etienne-Boetie/dp/B001HKPIF4/praxeologynet-20">Discourse of Voluntary Servitude</a></em></strong>, Carl Menger&#8217;s <strong><em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Origins-Money-Carl-Menger/dp/B002YLG2KK/praxeologynet-20">Origins of Money</a></em></strong>, and Murray Rothbard&#8217;s <strong><em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Anatomy-State-Murray-Rothbard/dp/1933550481/praxeologynet-20">Anatomy of the State</a></em></strong> and <strong><em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Right-Prospects-Liberty-Murray-Rothbard/dp/1933550783/praxeologynet-20">Left &amp; Right: The Prospects for Liberty</a></em></strong>.  (Now they just need to publish <a href="http://aaeblog.com/2007/11/24/portable-subversion">this baby</a>.)</p>
<p>In other news, check out Kevin Carson on <a href="http://c4ss.org/content/3392">a day in the life</a> under the corporate state.</p>
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		<title>Stateless News</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 16:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roderick</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin Carson&#8217;s latest C4SS study, The Thermidor of the Progressives: Managerialist Liberalism&#8217;s Hostility to Decentralized Organization, is now online. As the subtitle suggests, the study documents the tendency of so-called &#8220;progressives&#8221; to side with power and privilege against genuine left radicalism. In other C4SS news (not so new at this point), check out the first [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin Carson&#8217;s latest C4SS study, <strong><a href="http://c4ss.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Thermidor-of-the-Progressives.pdf">The Thermidor of the Progressives:  Managerialist Liberalism&#8217;s Hostility to Decentralized Organization</a></strong>, is now online.  As the subtitle suggests, the study documents the tendency of so-called &#8220;progressives&#8221; to side with power and privilege against genuine left radicalism.</p>
<p>In other C4SS news (not so new at this point), check out the first installment of Gary Chartier&#8217;s introductory course on anarchism for Stateless U.:</p>
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<p>Watch some more <a href="http://c4ss.org/content/2025">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Roundup on BP</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 21:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roderick</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The next time someone tells you that the BP oil spill shows the dangers of a free market and/or the necessity of government intervention, send them to: Darian Worden here, Sheldon Richman here, Gary Chartier here, Alex Knight here, and Kevin Carson here, here, and here. Please let me know in the comments section about [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next time someone tells you that the BP oil spill shows the dangers of a free market and/or the necessity of government intervention, send them to:</p>
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<li>Darian Worden <a href="http://c4ss.org/content/2570">here</a>,</p>
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<li>Sheldon Richman <a href="http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/tgif/bp-spill">here</a>,
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<li>Gary Chartier <a href="http://liberalaw.blogspot.com/2010/06/any-good-thing-state-can-do-we-can-do.html">here</a>,
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<li>Alex Knight <a href="http://c4ss.org/content/2588">here</a>, and
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<li>Kevin Carson <a href="http://c4ss.org/content/2685">here</a>, <a href="http://c4ss.org/content/2804">here</a>, and <a href="http://c4ss.org/content/2826">here</a>.</li>
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<p>Please let me know in the comments section about other good commentaries I may have missed!</p>
<p>On a related note, <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/07/sign-at-bp-gas-stati.html">this sign</a> from an actual BP station is priceless.  (The pic below is just a detail; click to see the whole thing.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/07/sign-at-bp-gas-stati.html"><img src="http://aaeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/BP-warning.png" alt="WARNING: DO NOT LEAVE PUMPS UNATTENDED - YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR SPILLS" title="WARNING: DO NOT LEAVE PUMPS UNATTENDED - YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR SPILLS" width="220" height="391" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-5497" /></a></p>
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		<title>Clueless Cesca</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 22:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roderick</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob Cesca, a comedian apparently, is complaining that the free market hasn&#8217;t solved the oil spill crisis.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Cesca, a comedian apparently, is <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/how-soon-until-the-free-m_b_598305.html">complaining that the free market hasn&#8217;t solved the oil spill crisis</a>.</p>
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		<title>Rothbard on Dukakis</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2010/06/04/rothbard-on-dukakis/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 21:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roderick</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In addition to what you can find at Liberty magazine&#8217;s official site, there&#8217;s a trove of back issues of Liberty on Mises.org. (CHT Jesse Walker, who has a good labortarian piece on pp. 53-57 here.) It&#8217;s been pointed out that &#8220;G. Duncan Williams,&#8221; the pseudonymous author of a sort-of-pro-Dukakis piece about the Bush-Dukakis presidential race [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to what you can find at <em>Liberty</em> magazine&#8217;s <a href="http://www.libertyunbound.com/archive">official site</a>, there&#8217;s a trove of <a href="http://mises.org/journals/liberty">back issues of <em>Liberty</em> on Mises.org</a>. (CHT Jesse Walker, who has a good labortarian piece on pp. 53-57 <a href="http://mises.org/journals/liberty/Liberty_Magazine_April_1993.pdf#search=krimerman">here</a>.)</p>
<p><img src="http://aaeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/dukakis-tank-246x300.jpg" alt="Dukakis tank porn" title="Dukakis tank porn" width="246" height="300" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-5444" /></p>
<p>It&#8217;s been pointed out that &#8220;G. Duncan Williams,&#8221; the pseudonymous author of a sort-of-pro-Dukakis piece about the Bush-Dukakis presidential race on <a href="http://mises.org/journals/liberty/Liberty_Magazine_November_1988.pdf#search=duke">pp. 12-14 of the November 1988 <em>Liberty</em></a>, was actually Murray N. Rothbard, not yet in full paleo mode.  (In addition to Rothbard&#8217;s distinctive style, having the same number of letters per name could be a clue.)</p>
<p>Ah, memories.  I also wrote a <a href="http://praxeology.net/unblog10-04.htm#10">sort-of-pro-Dukakis</a> piece that year; it was my declaration of independence from the Republican Party.  (Rothbard&#8217;s farewell to the GOP had obviously come much earlier.)</p>
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		<title>Fall Right, Swing Left</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 07:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roderick</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;I don&#8217;t try to make you believe something you don&#8217;t believe, but to make you do something you won&#8217;t do.&#8221; &#8212; Ludwig Wittgenstein &#8220;Over and over, you&#8217;re falling, and then catching yourself from falling. And this is how you can be walking and falling at the same time.&#8221; &#8212; Laurie Anderson I&#8217;ve written before about [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="aligncenter"><font size="-1">&#8220;I don&#8217;t try to make you <em>believe</em> something you <em>don&#8217;t</em> believe,<br />
but to make you <em>do</em> something you won&#8217;t do.&#8221;<br />
&#8212; Ludwig Wittgenstein</font></p>
<p class="aligncenter"><font size="-1">&#8220;Over and over, you&#8217;re falling, and then catching yourself from falling.<br />
And this is how you can be <a href="http://vimeo.com/7153748">walking and falling at the same time</a>.&#8221;<br />
&#8212; Laurie Anderson</font></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve written <a href="http://aaeblog.com/2009/09/10/wild-cards">before</a> about the importance of Thomas Kuhn&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Structure-Scientific-Revolutions-Thomas-Kuhn/dp/0226458083/praxeologynet-20"><em>Structure of Scientific Revolutions</em></a> for left-libertarians.  Here&#8217;s another example.</p>
<p><img src="http://aaeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/skeletal-debate-300x160.jpg" alt="debate" title="debate" width="300" height="160" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-5232" /></p>
<p>Left-libertarians and right-libertarians &#8211; or mainstream libertarians, or &#8220;normal&#8221; libertarians, or whatever one wants to call them (I&#8217;m tempted by the irony of &#8220;modal libertarians&#8221; myself) &#8211; often get frustrated with each other.  Left-libertarians pull their hair out when right-libertarians at one moment acknowledge the existence of pervasive government favouritism to big business, and then at the next moment lapse back into treating criticisms of big business as criticisms of the free market.  (Here, for example, is Kevin Carson <a href="http://c4ss.org/content/2303">wondering</a> why John Stossel, who in the past has &#8220;tipped his hat to the ideas of corporatism and crony capitalism,&#8221; suddenly &#8220;smile[s] and nod[s]&#8221; when Michael Medved &#8220;responds to allegations that big business is corrupt and exploitative, in the corporatist economy we live in, by arguing that &#8216;it can&#8217;t happen, because in a free market &#8230;.&#8217;&#8221;)  Right-libertarians, for their part, can&#8217;t see why left-libertarians keep harping about corporatist intervention when the right-libertarians have already acknowledged its existence and badness.</p>
<p>I think Kuhn&#8217;s discussion of the pendulum  may help to illuminate what&#8217;s going wrong here.  Kuhn writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>Since remote antiquity most people have seen one or another heavy body swinging back and forth on a string or chain until it finally comes to rest.  To the Aristotelians, who believed that a heavy body is moved by its own nature from a higher position to a state of natural rest at a lower one, the swinging body was simply falling with difficulty.  Constrained by the chain, it could achieve rest at its low point only after a tortuous motion and a considerable time. Galileo, on the other hand, looking at the swinging body, saw a pendulum, a body that almost succeeded in repeating the same motion over and over again ad infinitum. &#8230; [W]hen Aristotle and Galileo looked at swinging stones, the first saw constrained fall, the second a pendulum &#8230;. (<em>Structure</em>, pp. 118-121)</p></blockquote>
<p>For Kuhn, the change from the Aristotelean to the Galilean interpretation represents a &#8220;Gestalt switch&#8221; associated with a paradigm shift; and I think the dispute over corporatism among libertarians involves something similar.</p>
<p><img src="http://aaeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/pendulum-ring-260x300.jpg" alt="a pendulum" title="a pendulum" width="208" height="240" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-5227" /></p>
<p>Aristotle and Galileo both noticed the same two facts about the swinging stone: a) it keeps swinging back and forth for a long time, and b) it eventually stops and hangs straight down.  The difference, I would say, lies in what they saw as fundamental or essential.  For Aristotle, hanging straight down (or getting as close as possible to doing so) was what the stone is <em>essentially</em> doing, while the period of swinging back and forth is an accidental imperfection &#8211; noise in the signal.  For Galileo, by contrast, swinging perpetually back and forth in the same arc (or getting as close as possible to doing so) is what the stone is essentially doing, and it&#8217;s the gradual shortening of the arc until it hangs straight down that&#8217;s the accidental imperfection or &#8220;noise.&#8221;</p>
<p>One can imagine the Galileans shouting &#8220;But the stone keeps swinging back and forth in almost the same arc!  Why do you ignore that?&#8221; and the Aristoteleans answering &#8220;I&#8217;ve already acknowledged the forces that constrain the stone in its fall!  Why do you act as though I haven&#8217;t?&#8221;</p>
<p>Ludwig von Mises tells of a <a href="http://mises.org/books/memoirs_mises.pdf#page=67">similar dispute</a> with his mentor Eugen von B&ouml;hm-Bawerk, when the Cantillon effects that B&ouml;hm-Bawerk dismissed as mere &#8220;friction&#8221; were for Mises an essential explanatory phenomenon in monetary analysis.</p>
<p>Just as Aristotle and Galileo saw different things when they looked at  a swinging stone, and just as B&ouml;hm-Bawerk and Mises saw different things when they looked at the expansion of the money supply, so right-libertarians and left-libertarians see different things when they look at the existing economy.  </p>
<p>Of course, like Aristotle and Galileo, they both notice (at some level of abstraction) the same facts: there&#8217;s a lot of more or less corporatist policies and there&#8217;s a lot of more or less free exchange.  But for the right-libertarian, free exchange is what essentially characterises the existing economy, while the corporatist policies are so much friction; and just as you don&#8217;t constantly mention friction when talking about how a mechanism works, right-libertarians don&#8217;t constantly mention corporatism when talking about how the economy works.  For the left-libertarian, by contrast, corporatism is a far more essential feature of the existing economy. (Though for most left-libertarians the free exchange is probably essential too, which may be part of what distinguishes us from some mainstream anarchists.  So the analogy isn&#8217;t perfect.  But never mind.)</p>
<p>Thus left-libertarians and right-libertarians are frustrated with each other because they&#8217;re arguing from opposite sides of a <a href="http://radgeek.com/gt/2010/05/13/free-market-anti-capitalism-is-this-all-just-a-semantic-debate">Gestalt shift</a>, where what looks essential to one side looks accidental to the other; and persuading our opponents may be less a matter of getting them to assent to some specific list of propositions and more a matter of <a href="http://radgeek.com/gt/2010/05/06/free-market-anti-capitalism-with-apologies-to-shulamith-firestone">getting them to look at the world through the lens of those propositions</a>.   (One reason I find this explanation plausible is that I used to be more of a right-libertarian than I am now, and it rings true to my recollection of my own self-understanding.)</p>
<p>Now Kuhn often gives the impression of thinking that in cases like this neither side is more right than the other &#8211; that the Aristotelean and Galilean interpretations of the swinging stone are equally valid, and the choice between the two is a matter of nonrational commitent.  It&#8217;s controversial whether at the end of the day that is precisely what Kuhn thinks, but let&#8217;s leave questions of Kuhn interpretation aside.  Whether or not that&#8217;s Kuhn&#8217;s view, it&#8217;s not <em>my</em> view, and  I don&#8217;t think that anything Kuhn has pointed out forces us to such a relativist position.  </p>
<p><img src="http://aaeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/purplewhite-duckrabbit-150x150.gif" alt="Duck-Rabbit" title="Duck-Rabbit" width="150" height="150" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-5235" /></p>
<p>So I don&#8217;t want to suggest that this disagreement between left-libertarians and right-libertarians is a matter of a merely optional difference in perspective, like the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Duck-Rabbit_illusion.jpg">Duck-Rabbit</a> or the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necker_cube">Necker Cube</a>.  Unlike Kuhn (perhaps), in such disputes I think both sides <em>don&#8217;t</em> recognise <em>all</em> the same facts, or at any rate don&#8217;t equally fully register the significance of those facts.  Just as I regard Galileo&#8217;s interpretation of the swinging stone as explanatorily superior to Aristotle&#8217;s (explaining a broader range of facts, for example), and likewise Mises&#8217; interpretation of monetary expansion as explanatorily superior to B&ouml;hm-Bawerk&#8217;s, so I think that the interpretation of the existing economy that sees corporatism as systematic and all-pervasive is explanatorily superior to the view that sees it as mere friction in an essentially free-market mechanism.  </p>
<p>Right-libertarians could, of course, agree with the analysis I&#8217;ve just given of the disagreement, but insist that <em>they&#8217;re</em> the Galileo/Mises and <em>we&#8217;re</em> the Aristotle/B&ouml;hm-Bawerk.  That would be a fair enough response; nothing I&#8217;ve said in <em>this</em> post supports the left-libertarian view of what&#8217;s essential over the right-libertarian view of what is so.  </p>
<p>I do think, of course, that there&#8217;s a lot of important left-libertarian work out there that <em>does</em> make the case for the explanatory superiority of seeing corporatism as essential &#8211; including, obviously, Kevin Carson&#8217; <a href="http://mutualist.org/id47.html">two</a> <a href="http://mutualist.blogspot.com/2005/12/studies-in-anarchist-theory-of.html">books</a>.  (See also Charles Johnson&#8217;s recent summary  of the <a href="http://radgeek.com/gt/2010/05/10/free-market-anti-capitalism-the-many-monopolies">nine ways</a> in which corporatism operates.)  But that goes beyond the aim of this post, which is simply to offer a way to think about this dispute of ours.</p>
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