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	<title>Comments on: Rand Unbound, Part 3</title>
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	<description>&#34;Austro&#34; as in Rothbard and Wittgenstein, &#34;Athenian&#34; as in Aristotle and smashing-the-plutocracy.</description>
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		<title>By: Aster</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2010/01/21/rand-unbound-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-355035</link>
		<dc:creator>Aster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Please inform me of just where exactly the word “fascism” appears in my response. As I recall, I made a second, unrelated statement indicating my pleasure at the thought of dead Nazis.  I assume that as an “Anti-war, anti-corporatist, conventional libertarian and I’m sympathetic to left-libertarians and anarchists, voluntary socialists”, you would agree with that sentiment.&lt;/strong&gt;

I suspect that &#039;contemplationist&#039; may have confused you with my request for &#039;left libertarian virtual anti-fascist action&#039;.   It seems that I was careless, and while aiming for a &lt;em&gt;fascist&lt;/em&gt; you may have accidentally shot a mere &lt;em&gt;racist&lt;/em&gt;.  This is terrible, as such carelessness is inexcusably bad form.  Therefore may I suggest that to improve our future coordination we practice shooting the wounded racist over and over and over again until it stays dead?

Except that I think that you and Rod may have already killed it.  Apparently racists have 0 immunity vs. actual science.  Quite nicely done, except now I don&#039;t get &lt;em&gt;my&lt;/em&gt; turn with the Glock.  Hmmph.

Perhaps we should see the silver lining to this stormcloud.  If it weren&#039;t for racists and fascists and the like there&#039;s be &lt;em&gt;nobody&lt;/em&gt; for vengeful humanists to shoot at.  That sounds really doubleplusunfun.

I think I owe you a sauerkraut sandwich.

Sorry about the mess, y&#039;all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Please inform me of just where exactly the word “fascism” appears in my response. As I recall, I made a second, unrelated statement indicating my pleasure at the thought of dead Nazis.  I assume that as an “Anti-war, anti-corporatist, conventional libertarian and I’m sympathetic to left-libertarians and anarchists, voluntary socialists”, you would agree with that sentiment.</strong></p>
<p>I suspect that &#8216;contemplationist&#8217; may have confused you with my request for &#8216;left libertarian virtual anti-fascist action&#8217;.   It seems that I was careless, and while aiming for a <em>fascist</em> you may have accidentally shot a mere <em>racist</em>.  This is terrible, as such carelessness is inexcusably bad form.  Therefore may I suggest that to improve our future coordination we practice shooting the wounded racist over and over and over again until it stays dead?</p>
<p>Except that I think that you and Rod may have already killed it.  Apparently racists have 0 immunity vs. actual science.  Quite nicely done, except now I don&#8217;t get <em>my</em> turn with the Glock.  Hmmph.</p>
<p>Perhaps we should see the silver lining to this stormcloud.  If it weren&#8217;t for racists and fascists and the like there&#8217;s be <em>nobody</em> for vengeful humanists to shoot at.  That sounds really doubleplusunfun.</p>
<p>I think I owe you a sauerkraut sandwich.</p>
<p>Sorry about the mess, y&#8217;all.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Parille</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2010/01/21/rand-unbound-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-355034</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Parille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 14:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roderick,

I&#039;ve met some moderately retarded people who are quite good at their native languages.  I doubt they could learn calculus.

I agree that most people don&#039;t apply themselves or &quot;focus&quot; as Rand might say, but the evidence for the basic thesis of the Bell Curve is quite strong.

-Neil Parille</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roderick,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve met some moderately retarded people who are quite good at their native languages.  I doubt they could learn calculus.</p>
<p>I agree that most people don&#8217;t apply themselves or &#8220;focus&#8221; as Rand might say, but the evidence for the basic thesis of the Bell Curve is quite strong.</p>
<p>-Neil Parille</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2010/01/21/rand-unbound-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-355032</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 05:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I say this as someone who’s always been lousy at math.

For some reason that makes me feel a whole lot better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I say this as someone who’s always been lousy at math.</p>
<p>For some reason that makes me feel a whole lot better.</p>
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		<title>By: MBH</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2010/01/21/rand-unbound-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-355029</link>
		<dc:creator>MBH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 01:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And those structures depend on ordinary people &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; finding out what they&#039;re capable of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And those structures depend on ordinary people <em>not</em> finding out what they&#8217;re capable of.</p>
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		<title>By: MBH</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2010/01/21/rand-unbound-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-355028</link>
		<dc:creator>MBH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 01:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t the logic of calculus be nothing more than a re-application of the logic used in speech?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t the logic of calculus be nothing more than a re-application of the logic used in speech?</p>
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		<title>By: Anon73</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2010/01/21/rand-unbound-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-355027</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon73</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 01:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s also the structural aspects of capitalism that make it harder for poorer people to open their own businesses, get a degree, etc.  Those who have access to good environments and wealth tend to be amazingly self-congratulatory about intelligence (e.g. Caplan), and greatly underestimate the ability of ordinary people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also the structural aspects of capitalism that make it harder for poorer people to open their own businesses, get a degree, etc.  Those who have access to good environments and wealth tend to be amazingly self-congratulatory about intelligence (e.g. Caplan), and greatly underestimate the ability of ordinary people.</p>
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		<title>By: Roderick</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2010/01/21/rand-unbound-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-355026</link>
		<dc:creator>Roderick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 01:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ability to speak one&#039;s native language strikes me as a more impressive intellectual feat than calculus.

If we&#039;d never seen what armless people can do with their legs and feet, we&#039;d never dream what &lt;em&gt;physical&lt;/em&gt; accomplishments people are capable of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ability to speak one&#8217;s native language strikes me as a more impressive intellectual feat than calculus.</p>
<p>If we&#8217;d never seen what armless people can do with their legs and feet, we&#8217;d never dream what <em>physical</em> accomplishments people are capable of.</p>
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		<title>By: MBH</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2010/01/21/rand-unbound-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-355025</link>
		<dc:creator>MBH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 00:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure some would need really awesome hints, but that doesn&#039;t make it un-learnable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure some would need really awesome hints, but that doesn&#8217;t make it un-learnable.</p>
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		<title>By: MBH</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2010/01/21/rand-unbound-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-355024</link>
		<dc:creator>MBH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 00:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nonsense.  The problem is not that the average person isn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;able&lt;/em&gt;.  The problem is that the average person isn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;willing&lt;/em&gt;.

If the average person believed that calculus -- or any discipline for that matter -- was constitutive of their happiness, then they would more than likely learn it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nonsense.  The problem is not that the average person isn&#8217;t <em>able</em>.  The problem is that the average person isn&#8217;t <em>willing</em>.</p>
<p>If the average person believed that calculus &#8212; or any discipline for that matter &#8212; was constitutive of their happiness, then they would more than likely learn it.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Parille</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2010/01/21/rand-unbound-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-355023</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Parille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 00:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>___

Certainly I think most people could master calculus if they trained long enough and hard enough at it; that doesn’t strike me as implausible at all.

___

It strikes me as very implausible.  I think Charles Murray made the point that most people on the right side of the bell curve have little involvement with people to the left and therefore have mistaken beliefs about the average person&#039;s intellectual ability.

-Neil Parille</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>___</p>
<p>Certainly I think most people could master calculus if they trained long enough and hard enough at it; that doesn’t strike me as implausible at all.</p>
<p>___</p>
<p>It strikes me as very implausible.  I think Charles Murray made the point that most people on the right side of the bell curve have little involvement with people to the left and therefore have mistaken beliefs about the average person&#8217;s intellectual ability.</p>
<p>-Neil Parille</p>
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