Comments on: Mukti! http://aaeblog.com/2009/07/09/mukti/ "Austro" as in Rothbard and Wittgenstein, "Athenian" as in Aristotle and smashing-the-plutocracy. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:30:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: socialprincipal http://aaeblog.com/2009/07/09/mukti/comment-page-1/#comment-352408 socialprincipal Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:58:18 +0000 http://aaeblog.com/?p=3099#comment-352408 If furries or 'trans-species persons' were regularly harassed, excluded, attacked and killed for how they identify--as transfolks often are--then yes, I would stand with them too. If furries or ‘trans-species persons’ were regularly harassed, excluded, attacked and killed for how they identify–as transfolks often are–then yes, I would stand with them too.

]]> By: Marja Erwin http://aaeblog.com/2009/07/09/mukti/comment-page-1/#comment-352403 Marja Erwin Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:00:24 +0000 http://aaeblog.com/?p=3099#comment-352403 I doubt it. I'm not familiar with either furry or cross-dresser communities, but from what I've read, furries and cross-dressers seem to have far more in common with each other than with transsexual people. I doubt it.

I’m not familiar with either furry or cross-dresser communities, but from what I’ve read, furries and cross-dressers seem to have far more in common with each other than with transsexual people.

]]> By: Roderick http://aaeblog.com/2009/07/09/mukti/comment-page-1/#comment-352402 Roderick Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:37:39 +0000 http://aaeblog.com/?p=3099#comment-352402 <img src="http://praxeology.net/anarchodog.PNG" /> Woof! Woof!

]]> By: Anon73 http://aaeblog.com/2009/07/09/mukti/comment-page-1/#comment-352401 Anon73 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:07:56 +0000 http://aaeblog.com/?p=3099#comment-352401 At any rate Keith suffers from a slight lack of prescience; the internet has already produced such individuals: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furries#Role_playing A picture of a guy in a dog suit holding an anarchist flag would be best to go with this topic but I couldn't find any. At any rate Keith suffers from a slight lack of prescience; the internet has already produced such individuals:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furries#Role_playing

A picture of a guy in a dog suit holding an anarchist flag would be best to go with this topic but I couldn’t find any.

]]> By: Roderick http://aaeblog.com/2009/07/09/mukti/comment-page-1/#comment-352396 Roderick Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:39:37 +0000 http://aaeblog.com/?p=3099#comment-352396 I also doubt that an animal-rights activist who self-identified as a dog would put on a collar. :-) I also doubt that an animal-rights activist who self-identified as a dog would put on a collar. :-)

]]> By: Marja Erwin http://aaeblog.com/2009/07/09/mukti/comment-page-1/#comment-352392 Marja Erwin Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:06:52 +0000 http://aaeblog.com/?p=3099#comment-352392 I feel the need to address some of Keith's comments on the other blog. "Or, let's say that in the context of a revolutionary coalition there included militant animal rights groups whose membership included "transspecies" persons, some of whom would "self-identify" as a dog, put on collars and run up the street barking." This canard circulates in both trans-hating and trans-ignorant circles. I would normally attribute this to ignorance, but given the past disputes, ignorance, hatred, or some combination all seem like possibilities. The simple answer is that two human brains are virtually identical. One human and one non-human brain are very different. There are minor differences in the hypothalamus; the BSTc is thought to be involved in body-mapping and other tissues are thought to be involved in hormone regulation. (None of these are involved in gender roles.) The best studies to date show typically-female structures in the brains of trans womyn (assigned male at birth). http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/85/5/2034 Different hormone levels account for most of the differences between male and female fetuses, and it has been suggested that prenatal variations in the fetus's or the mother's hormone production might affect the differentiation of the brain at critical moments. There is no known mechanism to explain why a human fetus would have a canine, or any other non-human brain. Other species have diverged from humanity, and each species has gained and lost various developmental pathways. Each species has distinct developmental pathways. Both sexes of any one species, however, share the same pathways. I feel the need to address some of Keith’s comments on the other blog.

“Or, let’s say that in the context of a revolutionary coalition there included militant animal rights groups whose membership included “transspecies” persons, some of whom would “self-identify” as a dog, put on collars and run up the street barking.”

This canard circulates in both trans-hating and trans-ignorant circles. I would normally attribute this to ignorance, but given the past disputes, ignorance, hatred, or some combination all seem like possibilities.

The simple answer is that two human brains are virtually identical. One human and one non-human brain are very different. There are minor differences in the hypothalamus; the BSTc is thought to be involved in body-mapping and other tissues are thought to be involved in hormone regulation. (None of these are involved in gender roles.)

The best studies to date show typically-female structures in the brains of trans womyn (assigned male at birth). http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/85/5/2034

Different hormone levels account for most of the differences between male and female fetuses, and it has been suggested that prenatal variations in the fetus’s or the mother’s hormone production might affect the differentiation of the brain at critical moments.

There is no known mechanism to explain why a human fetus would have a canine, or any other non-human brain. Other species have diverged from humanity, and each species has gained and lost various developmental pathways. Each species has distinct developmental pathways. Both sexes of any one species, however, share the same pathways.

]]> By: Micha Ghertner http://aaeblog.com/2009/07/09/mukti/comment-page-1/#comment-352389 Micha Ghertner Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:31:01 +0000 http://aaeblog.com/?p=3099#comment-352389 Please, let's leave the pegging out of this discussion. Please, let’s leave the pegging out of this discussion.

]]> By: Dennis http://aaeblog.com/2009/07/09/mukti/comment-page-1/#comment-352380 Dennis Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:39:21 +0000 http://aaeblog.com/?p=3099#comment-352380 As long as they have mountain-man beards and dress in black t shirts (usually with jeans) the Mofo Alliance is welcome in Left Libertarian circles. I kid, I kid. Oh, and the Screaming Sexualists are a really awesome roller derby team in Salina, Kansas. As long as they have mountain-man beards and dress in black t shirts (usually with jeans) the Mofo Alliance is welcome in Left Libertarian circles. I kid, I kid. Oh, and the Screaming Sexualists are a really awesome roller derby team in Salina, Kansas.

]]> By: Aster http://aaeblog.com/2009/07/09/mukti/comment-page-1/#comment-352377 Aster Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:22:36 +0000 http://aaeblog.com/?p=3099#comment-352377 'Sexualism' sounds like a great name for an avant-garde arts movement. 'Screaming sexualist' sounds like a cocktail drink or a designer drug. May I please have another one? BTW, my thanks to Roderick for keeping an eye on this sort of thing. Keith really goes to town in the comments section... I must congratulate him for some of the most creative bigotry I've ever encountered. I'd protest or something, but it took me at least six minutes to stop laughing. Shall we debate the merits of transspecies equality and the intergenerational love movement? <i>Does the Mofo Alliance deserve our solidarity and support?</i> I'm concerned their cultural politics might be incompatible with left-libertarianism; they're reputed to be badasses. Oh, and you people all have filthy minds. For shame. Poor Roderick. :( ‘Sexualism’ sounds like a great name for an avant-garde arts movement.

‘Screaming sexualist’ sounds like a cocktail drink or a designer drug. May I please have another one?

BTW, my thanks to Roderick for keeping an eye on this sort of thing. Keith really goes to town in the comments section… I must congratulate him for some of the most creative bigotry I’ve ever encountered. I’d protest or something, but it took me at least six minutes to stop laughing. Shall we debate the merits of transspecies equality and the intergenerational love movement? Does the Mofo Alliance deserve our solidarity and support? I’m concerned their cultural politics might be incompatible with left-libertarianism; they’re reputed to be badasses.

Oh, and you people all have filthy minds. For shame. Poor Roderick. :(

]]> By: Brandon http://aaeblog.com/2009/07/09/mukti/comment-page-1/#comment-352375 Brandon Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:40:03 +0000 http://aaeblog.com/?p=3099#comment-352375 Well, the interesting thing is that the FBI starts using "Longrod" as a short form around about page 45 of your confidential file (right where they document your efforts to assassinate Castro using explosive cigars in the 70s), eg. "That night Longrod engaged in a profanity-laden phone call with President Nixon which ended abruptly when..." It's almost as if someone at the FBI knows you personally, even while setting up a whole bunch of phone taps, and...well, I...I've said too much. Well, the interesting thing is that the FBI starts using “Longrod” as a short form around about page 45 of your confidential file (right where they document your efforts to assassinate Castro using explosive cigars in the 70s), eg. “That night Longrod engaged in a profanity-laden phone call with President Nixon which ended abruptly when…”
It’s almost as if someone at the FBI knows you personally, even while setting up a whole bunch of phone taps, and…well, I…I’ve said too much.

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