15 responses to “Down in the Cruddy Muddy Deep”

  1. Anon73

    Firefox 3.0.11 Windows XP

    Somewhere I remember CS Lewis describing how hierarchy worked in hell, and it involved sucking up to ones superiors while ruthlessly dominating ones inferiors. I guess big business and big government are the same thing after all!

    1. Matt

      MSIE 8.0 Windows Vista

      @Anon73: You’re thinking of The Screwtape Letters

  2. MBH

    Firefox 3.0.11.NETCLR3.5.30729 Windows Vista

    the distinction between sincerity and marketing has become blurred even introspectively.

    What is your moral assessment of such a character? I mean, this particular character is different from Keating in that Keating never reformed. He wanted to live vicariously through Roark the whole novel–”selfishness without a self.” This character shifts his end from himself to his species. He has a self, but it’s probably too broad for him to distinguish from anything. I would think that would set him up to see universal principles of ethics pretty clearly. And at that point, they could be internalized. Sure, at first he wouldn’t be able to distinguish between sincerity and marketing. But from there on out, if he were to own his actions and his life (in a Lockean sense), couldn’t he individuate in such a way that he would be able to distinguish sincerity from marketing? I’m no characterologist. But I’ve always wondered about these questions.

  3. Anna Morgenstern

    Firefox 3.0.11 Windows XP

    One thing that most “Objectivists”, as opposed to Rand herself, never understood I think is that there are more Jim Taggarts than Dagny Taggarts. More Peter Keatings than Howard Roarks out there in the world. In some sense she wrote her novels too late. The kind of people she lionized had already become nearly extinct on the level she was writing about.
    I think in terms of small, quasi-grey market businesses there might be a lot of Randian heroic types, but they don’t ever make it big because the fix is already in.

    1. Aster

      Firefox 3.0.11 MacIntosh

      Which is why the new Randian businesspeople need to be agorists. I think we should do it, and do well doing it. It’s a better idea than bohemian starvation, which unfortunately is largely the current left-libertarian fashion.

      In any collapsing empire there are new classes arising. Why don’t we learn from the early modern bourgeoisie and start laying some material framework for a second series of liberal revolutions against the our corrupt elites? If they scorn the grey market, so too did the feudal lords scorn the burghers, and from rather similar reasons and fears. And we know who won. Only this time, let’s do it right and aim to write into the new constitution measures to prevent the formation of a second calcified capitalist class to replace the current regime. A platform of disestablishment of the corporate model and a principled refusal to replicate it in our own institutions prior to ‘the Revolution’ is a good first step.

      Successful social movements parallel real social interests which are not well served by the current system. Libertarians should seek out socioeconomic allies- not the rich, not the poor, not the middle class, but the independent, or those who would choose independence were they offered and shown a way, from all conventionally defined social levels. If the world we seek is indeed better and more functional, then even in adverse conditions our better models should be capable of some tangible success. Let’s test Carsonian mutualism. If IP represents the attempt of the old order to hold on to its outdated privileges by retarding the exchange of ideas and information; then in the internet we have our printing press, and this time it’s nearly as fast as thought.

      We have much talent here which is being cruelly wasted by a system which is blind to human excellence, in principle and in senseless accidental prejudice. That is a crime, but it is a crime that can work to our advantage in a world in which quality human capital is the most valuable thing on Earth, and the active human mind the scarcest resource. We need merely find quality entrepreneurs and organisers who can figure out what dish can be made with the ingredients at hand. Fortunately, unlike communists, left-libertarians have no need to feel guilt from the pursuit of wealth of self-interest. The self-confidence which derives from success would empower the cause and improve its temperament.

      For an inspiration:

      http://www.blackmarketbrew.com/

      Absinthe, for instance, is difficult to find or import and absurdly overpriced (I ? absinthe). I know a left-libertarian who’s operated a gypsy cab service. There must be many other possibilities.