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	<description>&#34;Austro&#34; as in Rothbard and Wittgenstein, &#34;Athenian&#34; as in Aristotle and smashing-the-plutocracy.</description>
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		<title>By: Roderick</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2009/05/05/birdsong/comment-page-1/#comment-350756</link>
		<dc:creator>Roderick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 23:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See also &lt;a href=&quot;http://aaeblog.net/2007/09/06/pope-innocent-was-a-hippie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See also <a href="http://aaeblog.net/2007/09/06/pope-innocent-was-a-hippie" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: dennis</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2009/05/05/birdsong/comment-page-1/#comment-350659</link>
		<dc:creator>dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 02:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll have to investigate my copy of &quot;I&#039;m a Lebowski, You&#039;re a Lebowski&quot; to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to investigate my copy of &#8220;I&#8217;m a Lebowski, You&#8217;re a Lebowski&#8221; to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Chartier</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2009/05/05/birdsong/comment-page-1/#comment-350654</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Chartier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 02:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis: got the reference. But I&#039;d be curious to know if you know what the Coens&#039; own views are. &quot;Peaceful, Easy Feelin&#039;&quot; plays in the background during the film, and The Dude is notably said to be &quot;takin&#039; it easy for all us sinners.&quot; So The Dude&#039;s own attitudes don&#039;t seem to represent the filmmakers&#039;. Or do they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis: got the reference. But I&#8217;d be curious to know if you know what the Coens&#8217; own views are. &#8220;Peaceful, Easy Feelin&#8217;&#8221; plays in the background during the film, and The Dude is notably said to be &#8220;takin&#8217; it easy for all us sinners.&#8221; So The Dude&#8217;s own attitudes don&#8217;t seem to represent the filmmakers&#8217;. Or do they?</p>
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		<title>By: littlehorn</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2009/05/05/birdsong/comment-page-1/#comment-350639</link>
		<dc:creator>littlehorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 18:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Roderick</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2009/05/05/birdsong/comment-page-1/#comment-350635</link>
		<dc:creator>Roderick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 16:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t recall your email, but (as usual) I&#039;m behind on my mail.

&lt;i&gt;He mentions quite a few times the right to your own body. Does that follow from natural law ?&lt;/i&gt;

I think so.  People sometimes worry  about the idea of owning one&#039;s body implying some sort of dualism, but I don&#039;t see that it does.  Owning X just means having the right to decide what happens to X; that doesn&#039;t imply any dualism between oneself and X.

While I wouldn&#039;t word everything today precisely as I did &lt;a href=&quot;http://libertariannation.org/a/f42l1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, I still accept the general idea, including the obligation not to forcibly subordinate others to one&#039;s ends -- which seems to imply an obligation not to interfere with others&#039; peaceful uses of their own bodies.

&lt;i&gt;I’m also interested in your opinion on the subject of the French state outlawing religious signs, and the muslim veil, inside public ’secular’ schools. I personally derive the right to dress from the right to your body.&lt;/i&gt;

Sounds right to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t recall your email, but (as usual) I&#8217;m behind on my mail.</p>
<p><i>He mentions quite a few times the right to your own body. Does that follow from natural law ?</i></p>
<p>I think so.  People sometimes worry  about the idea of owning one&#8217;s body implying some sort of dualism, but I don&#8217;t see that it does.  Owning X just means having the right to decide what happens to X; that doesn&#8217;t imply any dualism between oneself and X.</p>
<p>While I wouldn&#8217;t word everything today precisely as I did <a href="http://libertariannation.org/a/f42l1.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>, I still accept the general idea, including the obligation not to forcibly subordinate others to one&#8217;s ends &#8212; which seems to imply an obligation not to interfere with others&#8217; peaceful uses of their own bodies.</p>
<p><i>I’m also interested in your opinion on the subject of the French state outlawing religious signs, and the muslim veil, inside public ’secular’ schools. I personally derive the right to dress from the right to your body.</i></p>
<p>Sounds right to me.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2009/05/05/birdsong/comment-page-1/#comment-350627</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 14:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Dennis&lt;/b&gt;:
&quot;The Big Lebowski&quot;, I think?

&lt;b&gt;Roderick&lt;/b&gt;:
I think that&#039;s a pretty apt comparison, and even though the Eagles are my favorite music artist, I had never thought of Frey and Henley that way before. Even though Don Henley wrote and sang more of the band&#039;s biggest hits than anyone, something just makes me like Glenn Frey as a singer, performer, and front man more. Similarly, even though Lennon was generally considered the creative leader and front man of the band, almost all of my favorite Beatles songs are Paul&#039;s songs. 

One difference, I think, is that Henley&#039;s songwriting abilities surpass those of Frey more than Lennon&#039;s abilities surpassed McCartney&#039;s; actually, I&#039;d say Paul was a better poet than John Lennon (&quot;Yesterday&quot;, &quot;Hey Jude&quot;, &quot;Maybe I&#039;m Amazed&quot;, &quot;Here, There, and Everywhere&quot;, Let It Be&quot;...).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Dennis</b>:<br />
&#8220;The Big Lebowski&#8221;, I think?</p>
<p><b>Roderick</b>:<br />
I think that&#8217;s a pretty apt comparison, and even though the Eagles are my favorite music artist, I had never thought of Frey and Henley that way before. Even though Don Henley wrote and sang more of the band&#8217;s biggest hits than anyone, something just makes me like Glenn Frey as a singer, performer, and front man more. Similarly, even though Lennon was generally considered the creative leader and front man of the band, almost all of my favorite Beatles songs are Paul&#8217;s songs. </p>
<p>One difference, I think, is that Henley&#8217;s songwriting abilities surpass those of Frey more than Lennon&#8217;s abilities surpassed McCartney&#8217;s; actually, I&#8217;d say Paul was a better poet than John Lennon (&#8220;Yesterday&#8221;, &#8220;Hey Jude&#8221;, &#8220;Maybe I&#8217;m Amazed&#8221;, &#8220;Here, There, and Everywhere&#8221;, Let It Be&#8221;&#8230;).</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 06:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look man, I&#039;ve had a long day and I hate the fuckin&#039; Eagles!  (Twenty Mississippi fun bucks to whoever gets the reference.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look man, I&#8217;ve had a long day and I hate the fuckin&#8217; Eagles!  (Twenty Mississippi fun bucks to whoever gets the reference.)</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Chartier</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2009/05/05/birdsong/comment-page-1/#comment-350600</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Chartier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 16:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great comparison, Roderick.

Sheldon: I wonder if Frey is being at least a little too self-deprecating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great comparison, Roderick.</p>
<p>Sheldon: I wonder if Frey is being at least a little too self-deprecating.</p>
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		<title>By: littlehorn</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2009/05/05/birdsong/comment-page-1/#comment-350586</link>
		<dc:creator>littlehorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 12:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Roderick. So long as we&#039;re on this light topic, I want to do a little hijacking.

I sent an email a few weeks ago but you haven&#039;t come back. Don&#039;t know if it didn&#039;t land in the right box, or if you just didn&#039;t want to reply, or didn&#039;t have time, bla bla bla.

I&#039;ve read some Lysander Spooner and your own works in the Libertarian Nation, on the subject of natural law, and the objections to it. I&#039;m also a regular of Arthur Silber&#039;s blog. He mentions quite a few times the right to your own body. Does that follow from natural law ? Or, does this principle derive from his objectivist past ? 

I&#039;m also interested in your opinion on the subject of the French state outlawing religious signs, and the muslim veil, inside public &#039;secular&#039; schools. I personally derive the right to dress from the right to your body. That&#039;s why I want to know if this right is part of natural law, since Spooner explained every order against natural law is illegal. Does this sound, uhh, sound to you ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Roderick. So long as we&#8217;re on this light topic, I want to do a little hijacking.</p>
<p>I sent an email a few weeks ago but you haven&#8217;t come back. Don&#8217;t know if it didn&#8217;t land in the right box, or if you just didn&#8217;t want to reply, or didn&#8217;t have time, bla bla bla.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read some Lysander Spooner and your own works in the Libertarian Nation, on the subject of natural law, and the objections to it. I&#8217;m also a regular of Arthur Silber&#8217;s blog. He mentions quite a few times the right to your own body. Does that follow from natural law ? Or, does this principle derive from his objectivist past ? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also interested in your opinion on the subject of the French state outlawing religious signs, and the muslim veil, inside public &#8216;secular&#8217; schools. I personally derive the right to dress from the right to your body. That&#8217;s why I want to know if this right is part of natural law, since Spooner explained every order against natural law is illegal. Does this sound, uhh, sound to you ?</p>
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		<title>By: Sheldon Richman</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2009/05/05/birdsong/comment-page-1/#comment-350581</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheldon Richman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 11:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frey told a Rolling Stone interviewer last year that were it not for Henley, the Eagles would have been Air Supply. I think you and he are saying the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frey told a Rolling Stone interviewer last year that were it not for Henley, the Eagles would have been Air Supply. I think you and he are saying the same thing.</p>
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