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	<description>&#34;Austro&#34; as in Rothbard and Wittgenstein, &#34;Athenian&#34; as in Aristotle and smashing-the-plutocracy.</description>
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		<title>By: Roderick</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2009/04/07/fun-with-totalitarianism/comment-page-1/#comment-349899</link>
		<dc:creator>Roderick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I thought Peikoff&#039;s account of the phenomenology (of course he doesn&#039;t call it that) of the death camps was interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I thought Peikoff&#8217;s account of the phenomenology (of course he doesn&#8217;t call it that) of the death camps was interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Roderick</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2009/04/07/fun-with-totalitarianism/comment-page-1/#comment-349896</link>
		<dc:creator>Roderick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 03:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Until I read this book in college&lt;/i&gt;

Actually that&#039;s not quite true -- when I was in high school I bought and read the collection of the &lt;i&gt;Ayn Rand Letter&lt;/i&gt; that had previews (actually quite different from the final versions) of chapters from the forthcoming &lt;i&gt;Ominous Parallels&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Until I read this book in college</i></p>
<p>Actually that&#8217;s not quite true &#8212; when I was in high school I bought and read the collection of the <i>Ayn Rand Letter</i> that had previews (actually quite different from the final versions) of chapters from the forthcoming <i>Ominous Parallels</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Roderick</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2009/04/07/fun-with-totalitarianism/comment-page-1/#comment-349895</link>
		<dc:creator>Roderick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 02:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Short answer --

What&#039;s bad:  Loopy interpretations of Kant and other major philosophers, monocausal theory of history and dismissal of other factors, uncritical reliance on Rauschning&#039;s purported but now largely-doubted reminiscences of Hitler&#039;s private remarks, insufficient attention to the details of Nazi economic policies.

What&#039;s good:  A handy collection, all in one place, of lots of info about and quotes from major Nazi thinkers.  Until I read this book in college (I mean I was in college when I read it, not that it was assigned in college) I had no idea what the Nazis&#039; ideology actually was. Plus Peikoff makes a couple of good points against Arendt.

The philosophic monocausalism of &lt;i&gt;Ominous Parallels&lt;/i&gt; and the economic monocausalism ofMises&#039; &lt;i&gt;Omnipotent Government&lt;/i&gt; provide useful balance for one another -- and they both have some good stuff, but both should be read with a critical eye (as of course  should everything).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Short answer &#8211;</p>
<p>What&#8217;s bad:  Loopy interpretations of Kant and other major philosophers, monocausal theory of history and dismissal of other factors, uncritical reliance on Rauschning&#8217;s purported but now largely-doubted reminiscences of Hitler&#8217;s private remarks, insufficient attention to the details of Nazi economic policies.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s good:  A handy collection, all in one place, of lots of info about and quotes from major Nazi thinkers.  Until I read this book in college (I mean I was in college when I read it, not that it was assigned in college) I had no idea what the Nazis&#8217; ideology actually was. Plus Peikoff makes a couple of good points against Arendt.</p>
<p>The philosophic monocausalism of <i>Ominous Parallels</i> and the economic monocausalism ofMises&#8217; <i>Omnipotent Government</i> provide useful balance for one another &#8212; and they both have some good stuff, but both should be read with a critical eye (as of course  should everything).</p>
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		<title>By: Roderick</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2009/04/07/fun-with-totalitarianism/comment-page-1/#comment-349778</link>
		<dc:creator>Roderick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than deleting Goldhagen&#039;s book from the list I&#039;d rather keep it on there but add Finkelstein&#039;s book too -- since one will surely learn more by reading both than by reading neither.  (Of course I&#039;ve read neither!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than deleting Goldhagen&#8217;s book from the list I&#8217;d rather keep it on there but add Finkelstein&#8217;s book too &#8212; since one will surely learn more by reading both than by reading neither.  (Of course I&#8217;ve read neither!)</p>
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		<title>By: littlehorn</title>
		<link>http://aaeblog.com/2009/04/07/fun-with-totalitarianism/comment-page-1/#comment-349775</link>
		<dc:creator>littlehorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh well, linking cannot hurt. Just beware, folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well, linking cannot hurt. Just beware, folks.</p>
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		<title>By: littlehorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>littlehorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Norman Finkelstein takes down Goldhagen&#039;s thesis in his book &#039;A nation on trial&#039;. I believe this one was praised by the Holocaust scholar, Raul Hilbert. So yeah, linking to this book is not a good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norman Finkelstein takes down Goldhagen&#8217;s thesis in his book &#8216;A nation on trial&#8217;. I believe this one was praised by the Holocaust scholar, Raul Hilbert. So yeah, linking to this book is not a good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Parille</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Parille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m working on a critique of The Ominous Parallels which will probably be posting on my blog and the Barnes/Nyquist Ayn Rand Contra Human Nature Blog.

My biggest problem is if Kant is so congenial to Nazism, who are the Nazis that were supposedly influeced by Kant?  Peikoff cites only Tirala (a minor figure that he probably first found in von Mises) and Eichmann (whom he misrepresents, at least according to Arendt&#039;s book).

Also, how come Peikoff never tells his readers that most of the people he mentions as being irrationalists (such as Barth and Cassirer) were anti-Nazi?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m working on a critique of The Ominous Parallels which will probably be posting on my blog and the Barnes/Nyquist Ayn Rand Contra Human Nature Blog.</p>
<p>My biggest problem is if Kant is so congenial to Nazism, who are the Nazis that were supposedly influeced by Kant?  Peikoff cites only Tirala (a minor figure that he probably first found in von Mises) and Eichmann (whom he misrepresents, at least according to Arendt&#8217;s book).</p>
<p>Also, how come Peikoff never tells his readers that most of the people he mentions as being irrationalists (such as Barth and Cassirer) were anti-Nazi?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Weber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would recommend Eric Hoffer&#039;s The True Believer and Schumpeter&#039;s Capitalism, Socialism and Democracy. There is gold on virtually every page of Hoffer&#039;s book detailing the mindset and culture that allows for the Goldhagen thesis to occur. Schumpeter is obviously not about totalitarianism per se but it another classic detailing the antecedents to totalitarianism and dictatorship.

I have tried to read Arendt on this and about two-thirds of the way through Origins I gave up - she is totally pedantic, and, I think, unoriginal. Peikoff&#039;s book give me tremendous misgivings also for the simple reason that the Randroids have essentially created a totalitarian cult themselves - &quot;excommunication&quot; and &quot;heresy&quot; should not be words associated with sound intellectual movements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would recommend Eric Hoffer&#8217;s The True Believer and Schumpeter&#8217;s Capitalism, Socialism and Democracy. There is gold on virtually every page of Hoffer&#8217;s book detailing the mindset and culture that allows for the Goldhagen thesis to occur. Schumpeter is obviously not about totalitarianism per se but it another classic detailing the antecedents to totalitarianism and dictatorship.</p>
<p>I have tried to read Arendt on this and about two-thirds of the way through Origins I gave up &#8211; she is totally pedantic, and, I think, unoriginal. Peikoff&#8217;s book give me tremendous misgivings also for the simple reason that the Randroids have essentially created a totalitarian cult themselves &#8211; &#8220;excommunication&#8221; and &#8220;heresy&#8221; should not be words associated with sound intellectual movements.</p>
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		<title>By: Black Bloke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black Bloke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Per Bylund over at the &quot;Colliding Softly&quot; blog has a pretty detailed reply to Klein&#039;s inquiries: http://perbylund.com/blog/?p=112

The post was formerly a blog post over at the Mises blog, but Jeffrey Tucker said that he didn&#039;t want the blog page turned into an area for debate.  Per posted the reply to Klein in the comments, but it simply disappeared.  The link above is to what was written.

In the comments to the blog entry there&#039;s a predictable appearance by Stephan Kinsella.  Predictable results follow from his predictable postings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Per Bylund over at the &#8220;Colliding Softly&#8221; blog has a pretty detailed reply to Klein&#8217;s inquiries: <a href="http://perbylund.com/blog/?p=112" rel="nofollow">http://perbylund.com/blog/?p=112</a></p>
<p>The post was formerly a blog post over at the Mises blog, but Jeffrey Tucker said that he didn&#8217;t want the blog page turned into an area for debate.  Per posted the reply to Klein in the comments, but it simply disappeared.  The link above is to what was written.</p>
<p>In the comments to the blog entry there&#8217;s a predictable appearance by Stephan Kinsella.  Predictable results follow from his predictable postings.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read the Peikoff and Goldhagen books myself, but everything I&#039;ve seen about the former makes it sound ridiculous, and the latter has been subjected to some withering scholarly criticism. FWIW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read the Peikoff and Goldhagen books myself, but everything I&#8217;ve seen about the former makes it sound ridiculous, and the latter has been subjected to some withering scholarly criticism. FWIW.</p>
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