Comments on: Pootmop! http://aaeblog.com/2008/06/27/pootmop/ "Austro" as in Rothbard and Wittgenstein, "Athenian" as in Aristotle and smashing-the-plutocracy. Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:27:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Mark http://aaeblog.com/2008/06/27/pootmop/comment-page-2/#comment-172366 Mark Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:11:29 +0000 http://praxeology.net/blog/2008/06/27/pootmop/#comment-172366 <i>"His claim would imply that everyone has a right to have their product purchased by somebody!"</i> Sounds more like an ethnic blackmarket gang than a socialist... er, wait nevermind. The <i>Atlas Shrugged 2: Shrug Harder</i> satire bit that got some attention a while back made me think Rand was actually the one writing satire on socialist means. <i>"You want a boycott? Here you go punks."</i> “His claim would imply that everyone has a right to have their product purchased by somebody!”

Sounds more like an ethnic blackmarket gang than a socialist… er, wait nevermind.

The Atlas Shrugged 2: Shrug Harder satire bit that got some attention a while back made me think Rand was actually the one writing satire on socialist means.

“You want a boycott? Here you go punks.”

]]> By: Anon73 http://aaeblog.com/2008/06/27/pootmop/comment-page-2/#comment-169107 Anon73 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:18:04 +0000 http://praxeology.net/blog/2008/06/27/pootmop/#comment-169107 <i>Did anyone dare ask the socialist how simply declining to purchase someone’s goods or services qualifies as “coercion”?</i> Actually no, but I just figured it was par for the course for leftists. :) Did anyone dare ask the socialist how simply declining to purchase someone’s goods or services qualifies as “coercion”?

Actually no, but I just figured it was par for the course for leftists. :)

]]> By: Mark http://aaeblog.com/2008/06/27/pootmop/comment-page-2/#comment-168928 Mark Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:24:44 +0000 http://praxeology.net/blog/2008/06/27/pootmop/#comment-168928 I always assumed "capitalist" meant someone that sang a soothing song for a crying child because they could. But cereal, Kevin Carson's term Vulgartarian is most useful for this debate. How many Capitalists think they earned the right to property just because they "did something?" That, for me, is the Vulgartarian credo: I DID WORK, I EARNED IT!!! Karen DeCoster works for a 100% libertarian company I'm sure. I always assumed “capitalist” meant someone that sang a soothing song for a crying child because they could.

But cereal, Kevin Carson’s term Vulgartarian is most useful for this debate.

How many Capitalists think they earned the right to property just because they “did something?” That, for me, is the Vulgartarian credo: I DID WORK, I EARNED IT!!!

Karen DeCoster works for a 100% libertarian company I’m sure.

]]> By: Black Bloke http://aaeblog.com/2008/06/27/pootmop/comment-page-2/#comment-168474 Black Bloke Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:56:56 +0000 http://praxeology.net/blog/2008/06/27/pootmop/#comment-168474 I like the term Catallaxy. I like the term Catallaxy.

]]> By: Bob Kaercher http://aaeblog.com/2008/06/27/pootmop/comment-page-2/#comment-168472 Bob Kaercher Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:44:36 +0000 http://praxeology.net/blog/2008/06/27/pootmop/#comment-168472 Anon73: Did anyone dare ask the socialist how simply declining to purchase someone's goods or services qualifies as "coercion"? His claim would imply that everyone has a right to have their product purchased by somebody! Anon73: Did anyone dare ask the socialist how simply declining to purchase someone’s goods or services qualifies as “coercion”? His claim would imply that everyone has a right to have their product purchased by somebody!

]]> By: Anon73 http://aaeblog.com/2008/06/27/pootmop/comment-page-2/#comment-168412 Anon73 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:09:18 +0000 http://praxeology.net/blog/2008/06/27/pootmop/#comment-168412 For what it's worth, I heard a socialist give a talk where he explicitly referred to boycotts as a form of 'coercion'. So I guess the terminological disputes can't be resolved that easily Bob. For what it’s worth, I heard a socialist give a talk where he explicitly referred to boycotts as a form of ‘coercion’. So I guess the terminological disputes can’t be resolved that easily Bob.

]]> By: freeman http://aaeblog.com/2008/06/27/pootmop/comment-page-2/#comment-168284 freeman Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:38:06 +0000 http://praxeology.net/blog/2008/06/27/pootmop/#comment-168284 "Free market pluralist", eh? I kinda like that. Thanks for sharing that, Bob! “Free market pluralist”, eh? I kinda like that. Thanks for sharing that, Bob!

]]> By: Bob Kaercher http://aaeblog.com/2008/06/27/pootmop/comment-page-2/#comment-168271 Bob Kaercher Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:11:16 +0000 http://praxeology.net/blog/2008/06/27/pootmop/#comment-168271 Karl Hess used the term "free market pluralist" in his autobiography 'Mostly On the Edge,' which I think is a term that best suits my own views on this discussion. Exchange between people can happen in a very wide array of forms as diverse as humanity itself, some of which can be characterized as "capitalist" OR "socialist." But as far as I'm concerned, call what you like capitalism or socialism and promote it to your heart's content, just so long as there's no initiation of force or coercion. Karl Hess used the term “free market pluralist” in his autobiography ‘Mostly On the Edge,’ which I think is a term that best suits my own views on this discussion. Exchange between people can happen in a very wide array of forms as diverse as humanity itself, some of which can be characterized as “capitalist” OR “socialist.”

But as far as I’m concerned, call what you like capitalism or socialism and promote it to your heart’s content, just so long as there’s no initiation of force or coercion.

]]> By: Belinsky http://aaeblog.com/2008/06/27/pootmop/comment-page-2/#comment-167856 Belinsky Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:01:30 +0000 http://praxeology.net/blog/2008/06/27/pootmop/#comment-167856 Hell, I won't even make any claims about what other socialists accept. It's just <i>my</i> definition, and it (WOOTMOP) is one of the core socialist ideals. Hell, I won’t even make any claims about what other socialists accept. It’s just my definition, and it (WOOTMOP) is one of the core socialist ideals.

]]> By: Belinsky http://aaeblog.com/2008/06/27/pootmop/comment-page-2/#comment-167855 Belinsky Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:59:57 +0000 http://praxeology.net/blog/2008/06/27/pootmop/#comment-167855 *universal definition of socialism *universal definition of socialism

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