Comments on: Remembering Corporate Liberalism http://aaeblog.com/2007/02/06/remembering-corporate-liberalism/ "Austro" as in Rothbard and Wittgenstein, "Athenian" as in Aristotle and smashing-the-plutocracy. Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:57:36 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: The Art of the Possible » Blog Archive » Poison As Food, Poison As Antidote http://aaeblog.com/2007/02/06/remembering-corporate-liberalism/comment-page-1/#comment-214131 The Art of the Possible » Blog Archive » Poison As Food, Poison As Antidote Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:41:01 +0000 http://praxeology.net/blog/2007/02/06/remembering-corporate-liberalism/#comment-214131 [...] The largely (though not completely) illusory conflict between state-oriented Palpatine and corporate-oriented Dooku in the Star Wars prequels is a nice dramatisation of the same principle. [...] [...] The largely (though not completely) illusory conflict between state-oriented Palpatine and corporate-oriented Dooku in the Star Wars prequels is a nice dramatisation of the same principle. [...]

]]> By: BradSpangler.com » Blog Archive » SDS fights the good fight, show your support http://aaeblog.com/2007/02/06/remembering-corporate-liberalism/comment-page-1/#comment-6557 BradSpangler.com » Blog Archive » SDS fights the good fight, show your support Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:31:10 +0000 http://praxeology.net/blog/2007/02/06/remembering-corporate-liberalism/#comment-6557 [...] See also Roderick Long: Clanking Glory In his 1967 book Containment and Change, New Left leader and former SDS president Carl Oglesby (about whom I’ve blogged previously) wrote the following still all-too-timely passage. (If it sounds a bit like Rothbard, well, Rothbard’s Transformation of the American Right shows up in the footnotes.) [...] [...] See also Roderick Long: Clanking Glory In his 1967 book Containment and Change, New Left leader and former SDS president Carl Oglesby (about whom I’ve blogged previously) wrote the following still all-too-timely passage. (If it sounds a bit like Rothbard, well, Rothbard’s Transformation of the American Right shows up in the footnotes.) [...]

]]> By: AdamP http://aaeblog.com/2007/02/06/remembering-corporate-liberalism/comment-page-1/#comment-3594 AdamP Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:56:32 +0000 http://praxeology.net/blog/2007/02/06/remembering-corporate-liberalism/#comment-3594 Your analysis is simplistic. The evils of business you mentioned are all evils of government intervention on the behalf of business. So, should someone decide that all businesses deserve protection from the government, then your attacks simply don't apply. Your analysis is simplistic.
The evils of business you mentioned are all evils of government intervention on the behalf of business. So, should someone decide that all businesses deserve protection from the government, then your attacks simply don’t apply.

]]> By: Sheldon Richman http://aaeblog.com/2007/02/06/remembering-corporate-liberalism/comment-page-1/#comment-2623 Sheldon Richman Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:46:36 +0000 http://praxeology.net/blog/2007/02/06/remembering-corporate-liberalism/#comment-2623 Hear, hear! Who would have thought that the libertarian movement of the 21st century would be less sophisticated than that of the 19th? One root of the problem is the libertarian love affair with the "Founding Fathers" (Madison, especially) and the Constitution. Once that root is dug up, we may make some progress. Does no one read Nock's Our Enemy the State anymore? Hear, hear! Who would have thought that the libertarian movement of the 21st century would be less sophisticated than that of the 19th? One root of the problem is the libertarian love affair with the “Founding Fathers” (Madison, especially) and the Constitution. Once that root is dug up, we may make some progress. Does no one read Nock’s Our Enemy the State anymore?

]]> By: Mark L http://aaeblog.com/2007/02/06/remembering-corporate-liberalism/comment-page-1/#comment-2622 Mark L Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:31:59 +0000 http://praxeology.net/blog/2007/02/06/remembering-corporate-liberalism/#comment-2622 I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed this post. This is precisely the kind of clearly written, well thought out synthesis that I expect when I come to this blog. Have you considered writing a book on this topic? It needs doing, and I can think of no one better. I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed this post. This is precisely the kind of clearly written, well thought out synthesis that I expect when I come to this blog. Have you considered writing a book on this topic? It needs doing, and I can think of no one better.

]]> By: Tim http://aaeblog.com/2007/02/06/remembering-corporate-liberalism/comment-page-1/#comment-2596 Tim Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:02:52 +0000 http://praxeology.net/blog/2007/02/06/remembering-corporate-liberalism/#comment-2596 Speaking about evil empires, apparently <a HREF="http://www.ooze.com/toolofsatan/" rel="nofollow">Star Wars is Satan's tool</A>, at least according to some, but elsewhere the <a HREF="http://www.the-scientist.com/2006/12/1/20/1/" rel="nofollow">midichlorians</A> have escaped from the movie theatre and invaded the bio-lab. Speaking about evil empires, apparently Star Wars is Satan’s tool, at least according to some, but elsewhere the midichlorians have escaped from the movie theatre and invaded the bio-lab.

]]> By: John Donohue http://aaeblog.com/2007/02/06/remembering-corporate-liberalism/comment-page-1/#comment-2569 John Donohue Tue, 06 Feb 2007 23:25:59 +0000 http://praxeology.net/blog/2007/02/06/remembering-corporate-liberalism/#comment-2569 I largly agree with your analysis, although I usually call your corporate liberalism "cartel capitalism." You cite Ayn Rand and her championing of the persecuted big businessman. One thing about her should be made clear: of all the thinkers you mentioned, including Rothbard, she had the most penetrating analysis of the proper role of the state (not anarchy but also not more than policing) and made the most precise, clear differentiation between the moral capitalist and the capitalist that allies with the state to become a cartel. Rand was never deluded on this score. In every corporation today one might find the true spirit of enterprise, productivity, advancement, innovation and value-creation. One might also find -- in the same corporation -- the lust to align with the state to squash competition and secure favor. Can you say of a given corporation which is the dominant strain? Are you sure? Rand was the champion of the true-spirited capitalist, especially he who wished to have his achievments 'writ large,' and who indeed is often persecuted without justification. John Donohue Pasadena, CA I largly agree with your analysis, although I usually call your corporate liberalism “cartel capitalism.”

You cite Ayn Rand and her championing of the persecuted big businessman. One thing about her should be made clear: of all the thinkers you mentioned, including Rothbard, she had the most penetrating analysis of the proper role of the state (not anarchy but also not more than policing) and made the most precise, clear differentiation between the moral capitalist and the capitalist that allies with the state to become a cartel. Rand was never deluded on this score.

In every corporation today one might find the true spirit of enterprise, productivity, advancement, innovation and value-creation. One might also find — in the same corporation — the lust to align with the state to squash competition and secure favor. Can you say of a given corporation which is the dominant strain? Are you sure?

Rand was the champion of the true-spirited capitalist, especially he who wished to have his achievments ‘writ large,’ and who indeed is often persecuted without justification.

John Donohue
Pasadena, CA

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