9 responses to “No Fly Zone”

  1. Anonymous2

    Firefox 1.5.0.7 Windows XP

    Playing Devil’s Advocate here, maybe you could interpret Bush’s remarks more mildly to refer to space within a few thousand kilometers of the earth’s surface. Surely once someone had gotten beyond that point, nobody would seriously consider them to be on “U.S. property”…

  2. Anonymous2

    Firefox 1.5.0.7 Windows XP

    Also this reminds me of a three-dimensional analogy to the landlock dilemma I mentioned earlier – Imagine that for the last 1000 years aliens have been building invisible private apartments in a web around the planet earth. They are all like Patri Friedman’s “floating cities”, so they can be moved around and each cell is privately owned by an alien. The building and placement of each individual cell violates nobody’s rights. Then when some colonists decide to take off for Alpha Centauri they find they can’t escape earth without damaging legitimately owned private property.

    Further suppose that the earth’s ecosystem will collapse unless some vital materials on Alpha Centauri are purchased. In such a scenario, libertarian rights seem to imply that we poor Earthlings must starve to death at the whim of the alien landlords. QED

  3. Joel Schlosberg

    Firefox 2.0 Windows XP

    Or the sinister barrier from EFR’s novel of the same name.

    Also, there’s Heinlein’s “The Man Who Sold the Moon” where the businessman guy gets ownership of the moon by buying up all the real estate rights above a certain large altitude from the land areas the moon passes over, which nobody else thinks are worth anything because they don’t think space travel is practical.

  4. Anonymous2

    Firefox 1.5.0.7 Windows XP

    Thanks for the reading recommendation Schlosberg, I’ll take a look at it. However, I’d hazard a guess that if the aliens are not only fencing in the earth but harming the humans then they’d be clearly violating libertarian principles. And of course, in real life one usually only tries to landlock someone else as a prelude to harming them, which I should probably have acknowledged at the outset.

  5. Anonymous2

    Firefox 1.5.0.7 Windows XP

    Here, here! One consequence of being a libertarian is that I laugh my ass off when I read serious, matter-of-fact accounts of land speculation and title-granting by kings and states; the surreal quality is like a story of grown men trying to purchase real goods witih Monopoly money.

  6. Robert Brager

    MSIE 6.0 Windows XP

    Also, wouldn’t it also be fair to at least assume that the aliens – some of them, in any case – (each being autonomous, as signified by the point that each privately own their floating apartments) are not some uniform mass mind and that some portion of them might decide that allowing the passage of Earthlings through their property would be acceptable, nay, even something that they might individually or collectively profit from?

    Maybe by enacting a toll.

    I’ve heard that objection before and I just don’t see how it undermines any libertarian theory. Sounds a bit poppy to me.